The Genocide in Gaza is Now Being Directed by Neo-Nazis such as Ben-Gvir & Smotrich – that is why the Palestine Solidarity Movement Must Retain Its Anti-Racist Credentials
I don't say that anti-Semitism has disappeared but let us not forget that when the Tree of Life murders occurred it was when Trump was weaponising hate against a refugee caravan. And what did Israel do? Send Naftali Bennett to the US to cover for Trump. It was a one off. It wasn't state inspired terrorism of the sort Trump is engaging in.
The last murders in France were over a decade ago, the Hyper Cacher killings. Deplorable of course but hardly comparable to what Muslims experience here on a regular basis or Palestinians in the concentration/extermination camp of Gaza.
Of course anti-Semitism hasn't gone away but even now, as a marginal prejudice it is the preserve of the far-right not the left. Yet Zionists have made their peace with the anti-Semites and far right.
We had the absurd comedy of a conference in Jerusalem on 'fighting anti-Semitism' to which all Europe's far right parties attended. So absurd that even ADL was forced to pull out. Mind there is a certain logic in saying that if you are going to have a conference on antisemitism it makes sense to invite the anti-Semites!!
Here Crookes tells us about a swimming pool, brothel, canteen. Even a Complaints Office at Auschwitz. Dental facilities, a maternity unit and you could even get married. And just in case you didn't realise it, inmates were paid!!
So is Crookes a holocaust denier or have I defamed him. I suggest people judge for themselves!
It was then that my curiosity was piqued and my research into this started. And it was then that I was reminded of the Colonel's wife (who had been a young girl at the time of these events) claiming that nobody knew what was going on in the camps.
So it was that I started to re-evaluate all this.
How was she - and the other town residents- supposed to know about what was going on in the camps, if a camp inmate at Auschwitz couldn't make up his mind if he himself knew or not.
And now after my research I find that she was right. She didn't know about the mass murder of jews at whatever camp she had lived by. THERE WERE NO extermination camps in Germany*. This is a well attested statement of accepted historical fact. (*All the ones still alleged to have been were in what became Soviet occupied Poland). My Dad was therefore wrong to assume she had been in denial. It turns out it was in fact he who had been.
So then I started looking more into it.
Thus I came upon info about the SS German Judge Konrad Morgan who was tortured by the allies at Nuremberg to perjure himself and who gave conflicting testimony. He is important because since 1943 under orders from Himmler he had been visiting the concentration camps investigating and charging German officers and staff for corruption, cruelty and murder. Even some Kamp Kommandants were convicted on murder charges (murdering a few inmates) and were executed for it. Really! That was surprise to me and I recommend people check this out for themselves if they doubt me. Now, how does that sit with the understanding that they were kommandants of extermination camps responsible for implenting a policy to kill MILLIONS, if they were convicted and executed for the murder of two or three inmates by the Germans themselves?!
Before I go on, I should at this point say that the appalling number of fatalities at the wars end in those camps was clearly and obviously a terrible tragedy of epic proportions. I do not mean to minimise in any way the suffering of those poor people.
Its just that I now understand that a mythology HAS developed around that which I was not aware of before. A mythology that demonises the Germans unfairly, via denial of some basic uncontested but little known or publicised facts. A mythology that is taboo and can not be discussed in parts of Europe under penalty of imprisonment.
For example, with just a few seconds thought it becomes obvious that the terrible footage of the starved emaciated bodies from starvation related to typhus epidemics that we are all familiar with CAN NOT be connected to a gassing policy. Those are obviously pictures of people who died over a period of months from want and disease, NOT people who were supposedly separated and gassed on arrival. And the great irony is that the cause for that was not the Germans, but was related to our own Allied war crime of a starvation blockade and the deliberate targeting of civilian populations with the bombings of cities and supply routes and infrastructure.
To get back to the currently widespread and accepted mythology that demonises the Germans unfairly, here was a shocker: I discovered that Auschwitz had a swimming pool for the inmates.
Did you know that?
I myself was doubtful at first but when investigated to check out if that was accurate I discovered not only that but it also had a cinema. It even had a brothel for the inmates (prostitutes had also been sent to concentration camps). And a canteen with beer and food (ice cream and cake).
Plus the workers were originally paid money for their labour (but later in vouchers) to be used in the canteen, stores and brothel.
Looking into it further I discovered that it also had dental facilities, sick barracks, a camp kitchen which had the caloric content of the diet carefully monitored by camp and Red Cross delegates. (This only deteriorated in Auschwitz and other camps towards the end of the war when German railroads and the entire transport system collapsed under constant aerial attacks.)
It had up to 16 camp orchestras (with instruments available), a camp theatre (where live plays were performed by camp inmate actors), camp sculpture classes (conducted for interested inmates by professional sculptors) camp art classes for inmates, a camp university (with lectures on topics from health, the arts, philosophy, science, economic issues, etc.). Marriages took place (worker inmates fell in love and were allowed to marry their inmate partners there). It had its own Auschwitz maternity ward (over 3,000 live births were registered there, with not a single infant death while Auschwitz was in operation under German rule.) The women sections of the camp had female guards. It had a camp post office (with twice weekly pick-ups and deliveries)
Check this one out: it even had its own jail (for people who commited crimes).
This next one was a big surprise:
it even had a 'Camp complaints office' where inmates could register complaints or make suggestions. (Camp Commander Höss had a standing order that any inmate could approach him personally to register a complaint about other inmates such as "Kapos" and even guards.
It had a system of strict discipline for guards and also for inmates, with punishment being handed out against those found guilty for even slapping an inmate).
Etc., etc.
Er... is anyone still reading? Or is this too disturbing a subject matter?
Yes, you have defamed me. Just as you are defaming Prof. Miller.
Where do I deny ‘the holocaust’? Quote me denying it.
You can’t, so you just resort to VERY DAMAGING name-calling. Ad hominem!
BOTTOM LINE: This isn’t about me. You are defaming me in order to avoid my criticism of your fallacious arguments against what Prof. Miller is ACTUALLY ARGUING.
Where does Prof. Miller ever attack all Jews and blame ALL Jews for anything?
He doesn’t do that anywhere. YOU misrepresented him, and then attacked YOUR misrepresentation (your ‘straw-man’ logical fallacy). You can not reply to this so attack the person, (the ‘ad hominem’ logical fallacy).
So do you deny that you said this? Because this is holocaust denial. Just a 'yes' or 'no' will suffice. Did you say it?
'To get back to the currently widespread and accepted mythology that demonizes the Germans unfairly, here was a shocker: I discovered that Auschwitz had a swimming pool for the inmates.
Did you know that? I myself was doubtful at first, but when I investigated to check out if that was accurate I discovered not only that but that the camp also had a cinema. It even had a brothel for the inmates (prostitutes had also been sent to concentration camps). And a canteen with beer and food (ice cream and cake). Plus the workers were originally paid money for their labor (but later in vouchers) to be used in the canteen, stores and brothel.
Looking into it further I discovered that it also had dental facilities, sick barracks, a camp kitchen which had the caloric content of the diet carefully monitored by camp and Red Cross delegates. (This only deteriorated in Auschwitz and other camps towards the end of the war when the entire German transport system collapsed under constant aerial bombardment.)
'Auschwitz had up to 16 camp orchestras (with instruments available), a camp theatre (where live plays were performed by camp inmate actors), camp sculpture classes (conducted for interested inmates by professional sculptors), camp art classes for inmates, a camp university (with lectures on topics from health, the arts, philosophy, science, economic issues, etc.). Marriages took place (worker inmates fell in love and were allowed to marry their inmate partners there). It had its own Auschwitz maternity ward (over 3,000 live births were registered there, with not a single infant death while Auschwitz was in operation under German rule). The women sections of the camp had female guards. It had a camp post office (with twice weekly pick-ups and deliveries).'
People can read the whole article
'The Human Face of Holocaust Revisionism - A Biographical Reminiscence'
289 members of Labour International had to petition the Labour Party b4 they would expel you - the above article is by you and your nonsense about inmates of Auschwitz being paid for work, having canteens with cake and icecream is just disgusting holocaust denial crap.
Christopher Crooke's comments should be seen in the light of the fact that he was the only holocaust denier to have been expelled from the Labour Party unlike the hundreds of others falsely accused of anti-Semitism.
He believes that Auschwitz was some kind of holiday camp with a swimming pool for inmates, a complaints bureau, brothel for those incline that way and no doubt a healthy nutritious diet. He also denies the existence of gas chambers.
So in the light of that you can read the nonsense below.
E.g. Crookes states that there is 'no evidence' for Miller suggesting that Jews are infiltrators but he takes people to task, as I showed for not being on their guard against infiltrators in t he same tweet that he talked of being wary of Jewish allies in scare quotes.
I have NEVER suggested Auschwitz was ”a holiday camp”.
You are proving my point.
Which is that you ONLY can argue using the logical fallacies of strawman misrepresentation and ’ad hominem’ smears’. You have no reply to reasonable points made to you, so instead you try to discredit people personally.
Exactly as you are doing with Prof. Miller.
You have no coherent, rational, reply to his argument — or mine — so you instead attempt to smear us with baseless accusations.
you were expelled from the Labour Party for holocaust denial. One of only two people after 289 members of International Labour petitioned the party. You even told me that the Nazis had established a Complaints Bureau at Auschwitz such kindly souls were there. And you did say that there was both a swimming pool and a brothel and doubted that gas was used.
Everything you say is illogical and everything is a fallacy. You say I am treating you the same as David Miller. No. I'm not suggesting Miller is a holocaust denier whereas you certainly are .
Wrong! I was expelled from the Labour Party correct: but on FALSE charges. I explained all this to you long ago.
You are still lying about me.
And you are now ‘moving the goalposts’ without admitting you lied about me. Now with new lies (i.e. I have NEVER “doubted gas was used”).
I wrote a review on Amazon of Viktor Frankl’s book on his experience during WW2. That was repeated on other websites. I stand by everything I wrote there.
So…instead of trying to discredit me with falsehoods, why don’t you just reply to my arguments to you on Miller with quotes of what exactly I have written that you are replying to? That way everyone reading can see my actual argument and your response.
Because what you are doing now only shows you can’t respond to actual arguments against your position and therefore choose instead to repeatedly reply to your own distortion. (Strawman) or personal attacks (ad hominem).
That you can’t would explain why on your blog you deleted my reasoned argument responding to numerous quotes of yours.
I.e. you are showing you have no credible reply. Which I suggest is why you need to resort to personal attack (ad hominem) against me (false accusations of Holocaust denial) and Prof. Miller (false accusations of anti-semitism).
there is a danger in what Miller says that he goes back to the old tropes about Jews and Jewish conspiracies but the main problem is that he attributes the influence of Jewish Zionists to imperialist support for Israel. He gets the relationship the wrong way around. Imperialism uses Jews hence why Trump is so concerned about antisemitism yet is a racist for everything else.
In fact Trump is also an anti-semite. Miller is expressing the frustration of many at Western support for genocide in Gaza, which we all feel, by seeing Jews as responsible for imperialism's actions.
To any readers able to see this reply, Tony Greenstein repeatedly lies and smears people with very serious ’ad hominem’ attacks and then when his false accusations are refuted he DELETES both his attacks AND the refutation of them. An honest, reasonable person would not need to resort to such censorship.
So please take this into account when reading his ’ad homenem’ based attack on Prof. Miller.
It is obvious that to be Palestinian or Arab is dangerous, unfortunately. But don't you think that in the long run these statements of Miller and many others online, replacing the word jew with zionist, might be dangerous. These statements to me appear to be forever 'tropes' (in Europe not in Palestine) about jews. Such as: the jews have wormed themselves into our schools, in high positions. They control the world. Beware: they control you. (And the jews love and commit genocide.)
“…is anyone seriously suggesting that Ilan Pappe, Miko Peled, Moshe Machover and others I could name are infiltrators?”
No. Nobody is suggesting that. Tony has invented his own strawman to then knock down and dance ‘victoriously’ over. It’s either i.) a subtle deception he is deliberately weaving OR ii.) an unintelligent self-delusion he is unwittingly practicing upon himself (stupidity) plus disseminating (dangerous and slanderous).
He also wrote this:
“…Miller clearly believes that Jews in the solidarity movement are not allies but infiltrators.”
No! There is no evidence Prof. Miller does “believe” that. Again Tony G is either: i.) deliberately misrepresenting him in order to discredit what he is actually arguing, OR ii.) stupidly and bigotedly misrepresenting him to bolster his own delusional belief-systems.
Prof. Miller is instead explaining how SOME Jews have managed to infiltrate and thereby influence/control our main-stream-media narratives, govt policy, etc., pretty much worldwide.
To explain succintly:
Tony G repeatedly misrepresents the fair and accurate “SOME Jews are doing” to his own ‘strawman’ distortion “ALL Jews are doing”.
It’s a fundamental false premise upon which his whole argument relies. Once that false premise is removed his whole argument crumbles.
I suspect relatives of those killed in the Tree of Life synagogue attack and the various racially motivated murders of Jews in France would dispute the claim that anti-Semitism poses no threat to diaspora Jews.
Other than that, good to see Tony taking a stand against ideas that are not only toxic but also politically mad and therefore damaging to the left as a whole.
The Tree of Life murders were a direct result of Trump's attack on the migrant caravan and one of his supporters saw that this synagogue supported HIAS, an Immigrant Aid agency and went a long and murdered 11 people. What did Israel do? It sent Naftali Bennett to the US to give political cover to Trump.
THe murders, ghastly though they were, were not a consequence of state racism which was my point. The numbers of Jews killed because they are Jews is minute cf. to the killing of Black people who are the targets of US state racism, police violence etc
I don't say that anti-Semitism has disappeared but let us not forget that when the Tree of Life murders occurred it was when Trump was weaponising hate against a refugee caravan. And what did Israel do? Send Naftali Bennett to the US to cover for Trump. It was a one off. It wasn't state inspired terrorism of the sort Trump is engaging in.
The last murders in France were over a decade ago, the Hyper Cacher killings. Deplorable of course but hardly comparable to what Muslims experience here on a regular basis or Palestinians in the concentration/extermination camp of Gaza.
Of course anti-Semitism hasn't gone away but even now, as a marginal prejudice it is the preserve of the far-right not the left. Yet Zionists have made their peace with the anti-Semites and far right.
We had the absurd comedy of a conference in Jerusalem on 'fighting anti-Semitism' to which all Europe's far right parties attended. So absurd that even ADL was forced to pull out. Mind there is a certain logic in saying that if you are going to have a conference on antisemitism it makes sense to invite the anti-Semites!!
Anyone who doubts that Christopher Crookes is a holocaust denier need only read this:
Irregular Musings on the Unicellular Denial. #3. Chris Crookes and Mike Peinovich.
https://tinyurl.com/55nxtj3y
And then there is an article by Crookes himself.
Re-learning process (part 4) - THE taboo subject of our times
https://tinyurl.com/8jkuw57a
Here Crookes tells us about a swimming pool, brothel, canteen. Even a Complaints Office at Auschwitz. Dental facilities, a maternity unit and you could even get married. And just in case you didn't realise it, inmates were paid!!
So is Crookes a holocaust denier or have I defamed him. I suggest people judge for themselves!
It was then that my curiosity was piqued and my research into this started. And it was then that I was reminded of the Colonel's wife (who had been a young girl at the time of these events) claiming that nobody knew what was going on in the camps.
So it was that I started to re-evaluate all this.
How was she - and the other town residents- supposed to know about what was going on in the camps, if a camp inmate at Auschwitz couldn't make up his mind if he himself knew or not.
And now after my research I find that she was right. She didn't know about the mass murder of jews at whatever camp she had lived by. THERE WERE NO extermination camps in Germany*. This is a well attested statement of accepted historical fact. (*All the ones still alleged to have been were in what became Soviet occupied Poland). My Dad was therefore wrong to assume she had been in denial. It turns out it was in fact he who had been.
So then I started looking more into it.
Thus I came upon info about the SS German Judge Konrad Morgan who was tortured by the allies at Nuremberg to perjure himself and who gave conflicting testimony. He is important because since 1943 under orders from Himmler he had been visiting the concentration camps investigating and charging German officers and staff for corruption, cruelty and murder. Even some Kamp Kommandants were convicted on murder charges (murdering a few inmates) and were executed for it. Really! That was surprise to me and I recommend people check this out for themselves if they doubt me. Now, how does that sit with the understanding that they were kommandants of extermination camps responsible for implenting a policy to kill MILLIONS, if they were convicted and executed for the murder of two or three inmates by the Germans themselves?!
Before I go on, I should at this point say that the appalling number of fatalities at the wars end in those camps was clearly and obviously a terrible tragedy of epic proportions. I do not mean to minimise in any way the suffering of those poor people.
Its just that I now understand that a mythology HAS developed around that which I was not aware of before. A mythology that demonises the Germans unfairly, via denial of some basic uncontested but little known or publicised facts. A mythology that is taboo and can not be discussed in parts of Europe under penalty of imprisonment.
For example, with just a few seconds thought it becomes obvious that the terrible footage of the starved emaciated bodies from starvation related to typhus epidemics that we are all familiar with CAN NOT be connected to a gassing policy. Those are obviously pictures of people who died over a period of months from want and disease, NOT people who were supposedly separated and gassed on arrival. And the great irony is that the cause for that was not the Germans, but was related to our own Allied war crime of a starvation blockade and the deliberate targeting of civilian populations with the bombings of cities and supply routes and infrastructure.
To get back to the currently widespread and accepted mythology that demonises the Germans unfairly, here was a shocker: I discovered that Auschwitz had a swimming pool for the inmates.
Did you know that?
I myself was doubtful at first but when investigated to check out if that was accurate I discovered not only that but it also had a cinema. It even had a brothel for the inmates (prostitutes had also been sent to concentration camps). And a canteen with beer and food (ice cream and cake).
Plus the workers were originally paid money for their labour (but later in vouchers) to be used in the canteen, stores and brothel.
Looking into it further I discovered that it also had dental facilities, sick barracks, a camp kitchen which had the caloric content of the diet carefully monitored by camp and Red Cross delegates. (This only deteriorated in Auschwitz and other camps towards the end of the war when German railroads and the entire transport system collapsed under constant aerial attacks.)
It had up to 16 camp orchestras (with instruments available), a camp theatre (where live plays were performed by camp inmate actors), camp sculpture classes (conducted for interested inmates by professional sculptors) camp art classes for inmates, a camp university (with lectures on topics from health, the arts, philosophy, science, economic issues, etc.). Marriages took place (worker inmates fell in love and were allowed to marry their inmate partners there). It had its own Auschwitz maternity ward (over 3,000 live births were registered there, with not a single infant death while Auschwitz was in operation under German rule.) The women sections of the camp had female guards. It had a camp post office (with twice weekly pick-ups and deliveries)
Check this one out: it even had its own jail (for people who commited crimes).
This next one was a big surprise:
it even had a 'Camp complaints office' where inmates could register complaints or make suggestions. (Camp Commander Höss had a standing order that any inmate could approach him personally to register a complaint about other inmates such as "Kapos" and even guards.
It had a system of strict discipline for guards and also for inmates, with punishment being handed out against those found guilty for even slapping an inmate).
Etc., etc.
Er... is anyone still reading? Or is this too disturbing a subject matter?
Branded and attacked with ad hominem epithets.
Yes, you have defamed me. Just as you are defaming Prof. Miller.
Where do I deny ‘the holocaust’? Quote me denying it.
You can’t, so you just resort to VERY DAMAGING name-calling. Ad hominem!
BOTTOM LINE: This isn’t about me. You are defaming me in order to avoid my criticism of your fallacious arguments against what Prof. Miller is ACTUALLY ARGUING.
Where does Prof. Miller ever attack all Jews and blame ALL Jews for anything?
He doesn’t do that anywhere. YOU misrepresented him, and then attacked YOUR misrepresentation (your ‘straw-man’ logical fallacy). You can not reply to this so attack the person, (the ‘ad hominem’ logical fallacy).
So do you deny that you said this? Because this is holocaust denial. Just a 'yes' or 'no' will suffice. Did you say it?
'To get back to the currently widespread and accepted mythology that demonizes the Germans unfairly, here was a shocker: I discovered that Auschwitz had a swimming pool for the inmates.
Did you know that? I myself was doubtful at first, but when I investigated to check out if that was accurate I discovered not only that but that the camp also had a cinema. It even had a brothel for the inmates (prostitutes had also been sent to concentration camps). And a canteen with beer and food (ice cream and cake). Plus the workers were originally paid money for their labor (but later in vouchers) to be used in the canteen, stores and brothel.
Looking into it further I discovered that it also had dental facilities, sick barracks, a camp kitchen which had the caloric content of the diet carefully monitored by camp and Red Cross delegates. (This only deteriorated in Auschwitz and other camps towards the end of the war when the entire German transport system collapsed under constant aerial bombardment.)
https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2020/04/irregular-musings-on-unicellular-denial.html
and did you say this too?
'Auschwitz had up to 16 camp orchestras (with instruments available), a camp theatre (where live plays were performed by camp inmate actors), camp sculpture classes (conducted for interested inmates by professional sculptors), camp art classes for inmates, a camp university (with lectures on topics from health, the arts, philosophy, science, economic issues, etc.). Marriages took place (worker inmates fell in love and were allowed to marry their inmate partners there). It had its own Auschwitz maternity ward (over 3,000 live births were registered there, with not a single infant death while Auschwitz was in operation under German rule). The women sections of the camp had female guards. It had a camp post office (with twice weekly pick-ups and deliveries).'
People can read the whole article
'The Human Face of Holocaust Revisionism - A Biographical Reminiscence'
By Chris Crookes here
https://web.archive.org/web/20140707121712/http://codoh.com/library/document/1896/
289 members of Labour International had to petition the Labour Party b4 they would expel you - the above article is by you and your nonsense about inmates of Auschwitz being paid for work, having canteens with cake and icecream is just disgusting holocaust denial crap.
Christopher Crooke's comments should be seen in the light of the fact that he was the only holocaust denier to have been expelled from the Labour Party unlike the hundreds of others falsely accused of anti-Semitism.
He believes that Auschwitz was some kind of holiday camp with a swimming pool for inmates, a complaints bureau, brothel for those incline that way and no doubt a healthy nutritious diet. He also denies the existence of gas chambers.
So in the light of that you can read the nonsense below.
E.g. Crookes states that there is 'no evidence' for Miller suggesting that Jews are infiltrators but he takes people to task, as I showed for not being on their guard against infiltrators in t he same tweet that he talked of being wary of Jewish allies in scare quotes.
You are spreading falsehoods Tony.
I have NEVER denied the ’holocaust’.
I have NEVER suggested Auschwitz was ”a holiday camp”.
You are proving my point.
Which is that you ONLY can argue using the logical fallacies of strawman misrepresentation and ’ad hominem’ smears’. You have no reply to reasonable points made to you, so instead you try to discredit people personally.
Exactly as you are doing with Prof. Miller.
You have no coherent, rational, reply to his argument — or mine — so you instead attempt to smear us with baseless accusations.
you were expelled from the Labour Party for holocaust denial. One of only two people after 289 members of International Labour petitioned the party. You even told me that the Nazis had established a Complaints Bureau at Auschwitz such kindly souls were there. And you did say that there was both a swimming pool and a brothel and doubted that gas was used.
Everything you say is illogical and everything is a fallacy. You say I am treating you the same as David Miller. No. I'm not suggesting Miller is a holocaust denier whereas you certainly are .
Wrong! I was expelled from the Labour Party correct: but on FALSE charges. I explained all this to you long ago.
You are still lying about me.
And you are now ‘moving the goalposts’ without admitting you lied about me. Now with new lies (i.e. I have NEVER “doubted gas was used”).
I wrote a review on Amazon of Viktor Frankl’s book on his experience during WW2. That was repeated on other websites. I stand by everything I wrote there.
So…instead of trying to discredit me with falsehoods, why don’t you just reply to my arguments to you on Miller with quotes of what exactly I have written that you are replying to? That way everyone reading can see my actual argument and your response.
Because what you are doing now only shows you can’t respond to actual arguments against your position and therefore choose instead to repeatedly reply to your own distortion. (Strawman) or personal attacks (ad hominem).
That you can’t would explain why on your blog you deleted my reasoned argument responding to numerous quotes of yours.
I.e. you are showing you have no credible reply. Which I suggest is why you need to resort to personal attack (ad hominem) against me (false accusations of Holocaust denial) and Prof. Miller (false accusations of anti-semitism).
there is a danger in what Miller says that he goes back to the old tropes about Jews and Jewish conspiracies but the main problem is that he attributes the influence of Jewish Zionists to imperialist support for Israel. He gets the relationship the wrong way around. Imperialism uses Jews hence why Trump is so concerned about antisemitism yet is a racist for everything else.
In fact Trump is also an anti-semite. Miller is expressing the frustration of many at Western support for genocide in Gaza, which we all feel, by seeing Jews as responsible for imperialism's actions.
To any readers able to see this reply, Tony Greenstein repeatedly lies and smears people with very serious ’ad hominem’ attacks and then when his false accusations are refuted he DELETES both his attacks AND the refutation of them. An honest, reasonable person would not need to resort to such censorship.
So please take this into account when reading his ’ad homenem’ based attack on Prof. Miller.
It is obvious that to be Palestinian or Arab is dangerous, unfortunately. But don't you think that in the long run these statements of Miller and many others online, replacing the word jew with zionist, might be dangerous. These statements to me appear to be forever 'tropes' (in Europe not in Palestine) about jews. Such as: the jews have wormed themselves into our schools, in high positions. They control the world. Beware: they control you. (And the jews love and commit genocide.)
More of Tony G’s ‘strawman’ misrepresentations..
He wrote:
“…is anyone seriously suggesting that Ilan Pappe, Miko Peled, Moshe Machover and others I could name are infiltrators?”
No. Nobody is suggesting that. Tony has invented his own strawman to then knock down and dance ‘victoriously’ over. It’s either i.) a subtle deception he is deliberately weaving OR ii.) an unintelligent self-delusion he is unwittingly practicing upon himself (stupidity) plus disseminating (dangerous and slanderous).
He also wrote this:
“…Miller clearly believes that Jews in the solidarity movement are not allies but infiltrators.”
No! There is no evidence Prof. Miller does “believe” that. Again Tony G is either: i.) deliberately misrepresenting him in order to discredit what he is actually arguing, OR ii.) stupidly and bigotedly misrepresenting him to bolster his own delusional belief-systems.
Prof. Miller is instead explaining how SOME Jews have managed to infiltrate and thereby influence/control our main-stream-media narratives, govt policy, etc., pretty much worldwide.
To explain succintly:
Tony G repeatedly misrepresents the fair and accurate “SOME Jews are doing” to his own ‘strawman’ distortion “ALL Jews are doing”.
It’s a fundamental false premise upon which his whole argument relies. Once that false premise is removed his whole argument crumbles.
I suspect relatives of those killed in the Tree of Life synagogue attack and the various racially motivated murders of Jews in France would dispute the claim that anti-Semitism poses no threat to diaspora Jews.
Other than that, good to see Tony taking a stand against ideas that are not only toxic but also politically mad and therefore damaging to the left as a whole.
The Tree of Life murders were a direct result of Trump's attack on the migrant caravan and one of his supporters saw that this synagogue supported HIAS, an Immigrant Aid agency and went a long and murdered 11 people. What did Israel do? It sent Naftali Bennett to the US to give political cover to Trump.
THe murders, ghastly though they were, were not a consequence of state racism which was my point. The numbers of Jews killed because they are Jews is minute cf. to the killing of Black people who are the targets of US state racism, police violence etc